# Page formatting - Letter v. A4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask for Help\ **Created:** [October 10, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488 "2024-10-10T14:32:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WilsonEngineers](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/wilsonengineers/32/73_2.png) [@WilsonEngineers](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/WilsonEngineers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/1 "2024-10-10T14:32:01Z")
I am finding that some of my common reports are now extending a couple of lines onto a second page when formatted to “letter” size. They are fitting on a single page when formatted with “A4”. Is there a setting to force printouts to fit better? I’m fairly certain this is something new, but don’t know if this is something I did or if it is a change in the way ClearCalcs creates pdf exports. ---
**Author:** ![David](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/david/32/156_2.png) [@David](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/David)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/2 "2024-10-10T14:37:37Z")
Hi James, Do you have any specific examples of reports where this issue is happening? If you can share one with me, we’ll be able to check it out and find a solution for you. ---
**Author:** ![WilsonEngineers](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/wilsonengineers/32/73_2.png) [@WilsonEngineers](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/WilsonEngineers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/3 "2024-10-10T15:05:08Z")
Can you access this project link below? At some point recently, ClearCalcs started defaulting to A4. Once I figured that out, and reset to letter, I noticed the formatting issue, like items 1 and 2 of 3 in this file. It’s a simple cantilevered floor joist, a single-span wood beam with cantilevers at each end, and one concrete pier calc. > **[Project | ClearCalcs](https://clearcalcs.com/project/b08ba4ba-7c21-46a5-8143-71626db411ac)** > > Online structural design software. Calculation tools for shear force, bending moment, cantilever deflection, steel beam calculations, wood, concrete and more. I can send a copy of the printout if you can advise where to send that. ---
**Author:** ![David](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/david/32/156_2.png) [@David](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/David)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/4 "2024-10-10T21:19:18Z")
I accessed the link and saw what you meant. I’m investigating how to prevent this from happening without removing values from it. I’ll update you here once I figure it out ---
**Author:** ![themathguy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/themathguy/32/225_2.png) [@themathguy](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/themathguy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/5 "2024-10-17T23:33:07Z")
I think the main thing would be to do a “shrink to fit” for the graphs, and it may alleviate a lot of this… I think the graphs normally (for me) are extremely space-inefficient, and might be the source of most of your problem. ---
**Author:** ![lgerin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/lgerin/32/35_2.png) [@lgerin](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/lgerin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/6 "2024-10-18T17:55:04Z")
Thanks for the feedback everyone! A question that come to my mind - we call it “One-page printout” right now. Is the one-page actually important to you? As opposed say to have a bit more info but over two pages. This is key for us to give the right solution ---
**Author:** ![themathguy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/themathguy/32/225_2.png) [@themathguy](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/themathguy)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/7 "2024-10-18T18:42:35Z")
I’d prefer a little more information over two pages… California’s DSA will not accept your “1 page” summary, so I’m forced into the 7-8 page “standard” calculations, which are a lot harder to follow. Here’s the specifics that I’d be looking for on a two pager: a) Load Combinations that produce maximum (up and down) results on each span. b) where on each span the maximum result is produced (useful for a quick gut check). c) reaction summary for all load combinations + reaction summary for all unfactored loads. d) moment diagram - preferably with all combinations shown and labeled (again similar to point b, useful for a gut-check), but at least with the labeled positive and negative envelope combos. e) common header showing (at the very least) the job name and the calculation name is across all pages to aid navigation. I believe point C is the biggest sticking point for DSA, but everything else will aid the engineer and the checker. ---
**Author:** ![WilsonEngineers](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/wilsonengineers/32/73_2.png) [@WilsonEngineers](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/WilsonEngineers)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/8 "2024-10-18T18:50:06Z")
It doesn’t really matter whether it is one or two pages to me now that my calculations are all delivered electronically. I just noticed recently that reports that were likely intended to fit on one page were now spilling one or two lines over to a second page. Either go all in on a more detailed two-page report, or make them fit on a single page. ---
**Author:** ![lgerin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/lgerin/32/35_2.png) [@lgerin](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/lgerin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/9 "2024-10-22T20:42:12Z")
Thanks for the great feedback guys! Love the list with your experience with DSA - that makes it very easy for us to address. ---
**Author:** ![WilsonEngineers](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/wilsonengineers/32/73_2.png) [@WilsonEngineers](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/WilsonEngineers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/10 "2025-10-02T17:54:21Z")
I’m still seeing this formatting issue. Is there any chance this will be resolved soon? ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blueprint1/original/1X/fee200a0b3830bcbe137070a94306a98e471ea62.png) ---
**Author:** ![WilsonEngineers](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/wilsonengineers/32/73_2.png) [@WilsonEngineers](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/WilsonEngineers)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/11 "2025-10-03T15:35:52Z")
Another project, same printing problem… The 2nd image is printed to A4 paper with the same issue occurring even on the first of the two beam calcs. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blueprint1/original/1X/5af0dec43b32782cf98aa7e8c52c88bc8b541627.png) ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blueprint1/original/1X/f8a97a8885ec292b4fd271b815ef4af4ee19c57f.png) ---
**Author:** ![lgerin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/lgerin/32/35_2.png) [@lgerin](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/lgerin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/12 "2025-10-03T15:40:23Z")
Thanks for following up @WilsonEngineers - strange that it’s coming up again. Let me review with our team and we’ll fix it. ---
**Author:** ![WilsonEngineers](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/blueprint.calcs.com/wilsonengineers/32/73_2.png) [@WilsonEngineers](https://blueprint.calcs.com/u/WilsonEngineers)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://blueprint.calcs.com/t/page-formatting-letter-v-a4/488/13 "2025-10-03T15:59:45Z")
For the record, this issue was never fixed that I saw.